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All right, so Les Miz is a book where 90% of the primary and secondary characters die. But does that mean we have to dwell on the fact? If I see another ficlet subtitled "My take on X's thoughts as s/he dies"... well.

There's nothing wrong with these fics, as such. They belong to the largely vapid but harmless class of Plotless Angst, along with the whingings of unrequited characters and the unanswered moral dilemmas of scores of hapless Enjolrati. If there are more of them that suck mightily, it's only because there are more of them in general, and some of them are quite well written.

It's just that they're overdone. And the ubiquitous tagline "my take on...", cited above, belies an unfortunate fact: the majority of deathbed fics do not take a new and original tack.

There are some. For Javert, there's "What Comes After The Barricades" ([info]lacorneille), which melds influences from the book, the musical, and the 1998 movie and comes up, finally, with a Javert's Suicide that actually feels like closure: "He knows then that yes, he would always believe/And knows as well that his God is with him still..." For Grantaire, there's "Thoughts of a Leaking Winecask" ([info]maenad), which strikes a convincing balance between irony, love, and fear: "And there might be a difference between the blackness of drunkenness and the blackness of death and the blackness of despair, depending on what shreds of fabric the angels had left over to throw over your head at the time, but you're not in any position to care." For Eponine, there's "Lark" ([info]adrienneherbst), in which there is splendid imagery, and enough detachment to keep it from the mire of sentiment where most of the rest get bogged down: "The moon reminds me of the lantern in the courtyard where we played as children..."

Part of my trouble is that, until a piece like one of the foregoing changes my mind, I don't feel like deathbed fics need to be written. Fan fiction is about filling in the gaps and expanding the borders, not (generally) about retelling. Hugo gave us those deaths, Javert's and Grantaire's and Eponine's and Gavroche's, in loving detail. No, he doesn't tell us what they were thinking, but he doesn't really need to: their actions speak for them. And this is why I find the pervasiveness of deathbed fic so peculiar, because in almost every case, the expiring character in question is someone who dies very visibly (and, sometimes, vocally) in canon. No one seems interested in the last thoughts of Combeferre, stabbed as he tries to save someone else, or Madame Thenardier, rotting in a prison cell away from her family, or M. Mabeuf, ending his reclusive life with a bang. It's all about Eponine's fading vision of her beloved dolt's face, or Javert's soggy agony of angst.

I mean, where's the challenge?

More than that, where's the point? Because we already know that Javert can't live with his moral dilemma, that Eponine would rather die than watch Marius die, that standing up to be shot will be the most meaningful act of Grantaire's life, that Gavroche is just too goddamn young. Most deathbed fics don't show us anything new, anything that enriches our understanding.

Beyond this, there's a skeptical voice in my brain that wonders just how plausible most of these concocted "dying thoughts" are. If I was expiring with a bullet in my heart, I doubt I'd be forming coherent sentences, much less trite sentiments out of a Hallmark Family Movie on the nature of my devotion to the guy holding me, much less in rhyme.

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Eponine's Death, by Manon
Holy shit that hurts
I changed my mind, I don't
Want to die
I want my maman
I want to go home
God I'm scared I wish he would kiss me then I
Wouldn't be so damn scared
Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow OW!
I wish my eyes would focus
Because he's pretty and I can't appreciate it--
Oh God that's painful
Oh
What a nice boy
.....
....
...
..
.
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Ahem. I'm better now. You can undo the straitjacket. Honest.

Comments

[info]estllechauvelin wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 10:12 am (UTC)
You had to say it, didn't you?
I now have a compulsion to write dying Mme. Thenardier fic.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 11:26 am (UTC)
Re: You had to say it, didn't you?
Ooooh! I want to see! I want to see! :)
[info]estllechauvelin wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 01:20 pm (UTC)
You'll be the first to know
If I ever actually get around to it. Considering my ability to finish Les Mis fic is approximately nil... Of course, I tend to have better luck with the plottless raving sort of things which I wouldn't bother posting. Maybe dying thoughts is one of those catagories which I can get onto paper. Never tried before.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 03:16 pm (UTC)
Re: You'll be the first to know
*grins* My bitching notwithstanding, any new Mizfic is good.
[info]estllechauvelin wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 10:55 pm (UTC)
Even if...
It is literally solely the product of being way too bored in Latin class, and having a thought process that jumps around between alusions the way a Monty Python cartoon changes subjects? Maybe once my characters allow me to do something besides basic exercise with them, and I can produce a plot, then my Les Mis fic will see the light of day... or the glow of the computer monitor... or whatever.

Except the Madame Thenardier thing. Whenever I'm sure I'm doing something new, I won't have any qualms about lack of a real plot.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2002 05:00 am (UTC)
Re: Even if...
It is literally solely the product of being way too bored in Latin class, and having a thought process that jumps around between alusions the way a Monty Python cartoon changes subjects?

Sure, why not :)

Except the Madame Thenardier thing. Whenever I'm sure I'm doing something new, I won't have any qualms about lack of a real plot.

Yay! Plotless vignettes have infinite utility.
[info]yay4pikas wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 10:59 am (UTC)
*snicker* I love your dying-Eppie poem. Far too much.

I still hate my dying-Javert poem, but oh well. That could be because I have an irrational prejudice against the majority of poetry. Especially mine.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 11:29 am (UTC)
*chortles* Thank you. I do so love being heavy-handedly mocking.

I still hate my dying-Javert poem, but oh well. That could be because I have an irrational prejudice against the majority of poetry.

You and me both, babe. I do not understand why so incredibly many people don't get the distinction between poetry and very choppy prose.

I'll grant you that that piece could be better, technically-- but it's not bad by any means, and the content is original enough to make up for any faults. :) (And it DOESN'T RHYME! You don't know how happy that makes me.)
[info]yay4pikas wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 11:36 am (UTC)
You and me both, babe. I do not understand why so incredibly many people don't get the distinction between poetry and very choppy prose.

I'm not sure I do, either. And really, I can name on the fingers of one hand the poets I truly like. Most published poetry doesn't do much for me either. I just don't have the right mindset, maybe (or it's like my art thing -- I want my art to look like something and I want my poetry to be structured, and that doesn't mean forced rhyming).

I'll grant you that that piece could be better, technically

That doesn't surprise me. I might try to rewrite it if I could bear to look at it. I don't know. It'd be off the web by now if you hadn't recced it.

(And it DOESN'T RHYME! You don't know how happy that makes me.)

I can imagine, actually. Forced rhyming is the devil's invention.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 11:52 am (UTC)
It'd be off the web by now if you hadn't recced it.

Meep!

The trouble is that only things I rather like ever get erased from the face of the web. The stuff that truly has no redeeming value stays up forever. >_<

Forced rhyming is the devil's invention.

Amen. Rhyme schemes, like every artificial artistic gloss, should either appear completely natural, or be so whimsical that they can be forgiven for being contrived.

Poetry is another whole rant. Yeep.
[info]yay4pikas wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 12:03 pm (UTC)
The trouble is that only things I rather like ever get erased from the face of the web. The stuff that truly has no redeeming value stays up forever. >_<

Amen. My theory on that is that the authors can't figure out how to remove stuff when they realize it sucks. At least I hope so.

Forced rhyming is the devil's invention.
Amen. Rhyme schemes, like every artificial artistic gloss, should either appear completely natural, or be so whimsical that they can be forgiven for being contrived.
Poetry is another whole rant. Yeep.


Yup. I tell you, you should write a column for ff.net. It would probably be preaching to the converted, but still....
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 12:12 pm (UTC)
Yup. I tell you, you should write a column for ff.net. It would probably be preaching to the converted, but still....

Aw, shucks. :) I'm still toying with the idea -- I feel like I'd need a) some kind of unified theme, b) wider experience of Fandom In General than I have or care to acquire, and c) the ability to turn stuff out on time, which is doubtful.

But it's a thought.
[info]yay4pikas wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 12:37 pm (UTC)
Eh. Unified themes are overrated. And Fandom In General is, too. Writing is pretty much the same fandom to fandom. Only the details of the cliches differ.

I'm totally with you on c). I've thought of columning (surely I can produce an essay a month), but I don't know what the hell I'd write about.
[info]gamesiplay wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 01:16 pm (UTC)
Oh, God. I love your Eppie poem. You really ought to put it up on ff.net and watch the dolts flock to flame it ;). It's gorgeous.

About dying-thoughts fanfics -- I completely agree, even though *cringe* I wrote one. Hypocrite? --Where? Anyway, I suppose there's a preponderance of them because angst is so simple (not to do well, obviously, but anyone can scribble down Eponine's "Oh, how I love him, oh, why doesn't he love me, oh, DAMMIT, I'm bleeding" or Grantaire's... well, Grantaire's usually turns out basically the same), and also because, as you said, everybody thinks that it's a wonderful idea to spell out very bluntly the things that Hugo had already insinuated.

If you're relinquishing the straitjacket, you can lend it to me. I seem to have misplaced mine.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 01:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, God. I love your Eppie poem. You really ought to put it up on ff.net and watch the dolts flock to flame it ;). It's gorgeous.

*giggles* Thank you. I may do that, later, if I'm bored.

not to do well, obviously, but anyone can scribble down Eponine's "Oh, how I love him, oh, why doesn't he love me, oh, DAMMIT, I'm bleeding" or Grantaire's... well, Grantaire's usually turns out basically the same

Hee! So true.

Except most of them seem to omit even the "dammit, I'm bleeding" element. Like agonizing pain and blood loss are the easy bits, readily subsumed in a wave of self-sacrificing joy/angst/bright light. I don't get that. I just can't imagine being so engulfed in love that being shot wouldn't bother me, even the teeniest bit.

everybody thinks that it's a wonderful idea to spell out very bluntly the things that Hugo had already insinuated.

Yah. I don't know.... maybe they don't realize they're restating the obvious? I thought I was being clever a few years ago when I drew a parallel between Eppie and R-- but then again, there weren't already eighty fics on the same theme floating around the 'net. (Or if they were, I sure don't know how I missed them.)

If you're relinquishing the straitjacket, you can lend it to me. I seem to have misplaced mine.

*cheerfully makes the appropriate tucks, darts, gussets, hem-adjustments*
[info]estllechauvelin wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 10:40 pm (UTC)
*giggles* Thank you. I may do that, later, if I'm bored

Please do!

Convinced obnoxious boy about whom I've ranted way too much in my journal already that I was insane tonight because I took my unabridged Les Mis to rehearsal. I figured that if I was going to write fic about Madame Thenardier locked in jail, I'd best reread everything about her in the novel, as that is the version where she dies. So I actually am working on it, if only in the research phase.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2002 05:02 am (UTC)
*cheers!*

I've always thought Madame could be a sympathetic character with no more tweaking than her daughter routinely gets.
[info]gamesiplay wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2002 11:11 pm (UTC)
Except most of them seem to omit even the "dammit, I'm bleeding" element. Like agonizing pain and blood loss are the easy bits, readily subsumed in a wave of self-sacrificing joy/angst/bright light.

Truth. In that, a whole lot of death fics are similar to so many of the badly handled rapefics you see out there. No, this is not just me being a pervert, reading rapefics. I know you know what I mean ;). It's just irresponsible -- depreciating all of the psychological and physical anguish to get some cheap angst and so-called character development.
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 17th, 2002 06:26 am (UTC)
No, this is not just me being a pervert, reading rapefics. I know you know what I mean ;)

No, I understand. You're right. The only place I can remember seeing it handled well is in "The Colour Of Despair". It made me extremely uncomfortable-- which is exactly what should happen.

Not to be a snob, but I get the feeling it has something to do with the age of the authors. I'm pretty sure the authors of most Eppie rapefics are young/inexperienced enough that the concept -- and the word itself -- is still new enough to them that it's both frightening in itself, and not quite real. So they write down the infamous "then he raped her" line, hearts thumping, and expect it to have the same visceral impact on all their readers. They just plain don't realize that they need more than that to make it convincing.

(That said, there are middle-aged women who have written rape scenes like that and sold half a million copies of the offending book. GAH.)

But yes, to some extent I think it's the same principle -- it takes a certain amount of maturity to write about something when you've never experienced anything like it, be it rape or consensual sex or death.

If I had a finished story for every time I'd thought, "I should write one like that and show them how it should be done"... I'd be a lot more productive (not to mention talented) than I am. ;) Ah, well.
[info]ladyshrew wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 06:17 pm (UTC)
That poem is HILARIOUS! Thanks for posting it! ;-)

And while I don't read much fanfic at all and had NO idea there were death fics around, I must say I quite agree with you... Although now I'm tempted to write one... ::smirks:: Ok ok ok... not really...

But I have to say... the whole thing w/ Ep not realizing she's in pain when she's dying doesn't just end up in fic... The gal I saw playing Ep in London didn't seem to realize Ep was supposed to be shot and dying either... She was practically galloping across the stage, and didn't look hurt in the least... She just *really* pissed me off... :-P

-Me
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 07:56 pm (UTC)
Re:
That poem is HILARIOUS!

Why thank you. :)

The gal I saw playing Ep in London didn't seem to realize Ep was supposed to be shot and dying either...

I don't get that, either. Every Eponine I've ever seen thrashed around and wriggled up till her last breath. Kind of kills the mood for me. *shrug* Go figure.
[info]ladyshrew wrote:
Jul. 15th, 2002 09:57 pm (UTC)
Well, Diana Kaarina actually stayed still, and I could believe she was dying... maybe on a bit of a blissful high from being w/ Marius, but at least she wasn't thrashing around...

But these thrashing Ep's just really confuzzle me... I seriously have no idea why they think Ep would be thrashing around before she died... :-P (Ep doesn't get it either... She claims she does *not* thrash... Ok, that's enough from you, Ep!)

-Me
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2002 05:08 am (UTC)
Diana Kaarina actually stayed still, and I could believe she was dying

Yeah, Kaarina's the only Eponine I've seen (out of four or five) that I genuinely liked. She still wriggled a lot, when I saw her, but it wasn't as obtrusive. Yay subtlety.

I don't know. I have trouble with a perky, bouncy Eponine even if she isn't dying, but maybe that's just me. ;)
[info]ladyshrew wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2002 07:27 pm (UTC)
Oh so do I... I have such an entirely different interpretation of her in my head that when I see these perky, bouncy Eps, I just totally don't get it...

So yeah, I admit I am a ridiculously huge Ep fan, but not perky, bouncy Ep... lol

-Me
[info]mhari wrote:
Jul. 17th, 2002 06:27 am (UTC)
Indeed. Citizens for Eponine The Surly Brat!

Heh. Sorry. I shouldn't comment before breakfast... o.O
[info]ladyshrew wrote:
Jul. 17th, 2002 02:54 pm (UTC)
Oyyyyy yes... Eponine the Surly Brat is pretty much what I saw in London... I was very pissed about this... Actually, it really pissed me off to hell that Thenardier was waving a knife around at her, and she was just like, ummm ok cool...

Dork. Real dork. Ruinin' mah char... :-P hehe

-Me
[info]ladyshrew wrote:
Jul. 17th, 2002 07:11 pm (UTC)
I should read more carefully before I reply... I thought we were still complaining about perky and bouncy, so I thought you meant brat as in perky bouncy bratty... which is what exactly what the London Ep was doing and driving me insane with... hah... Well, that and spastic... She was just all over the place... I think I'm gonna go back to thinking about Diana's Ep now... hah

-Me
[info]juliejordan wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)
Hey...I've written a short drabble/poem that was heavily inspired on your (brilliant) Eponine's Death short. I'd like to post in on ff.net (would credit you in the author notes), but I fear it might be too similar to yours. If you don't want me to post it, say the word. I only wrote it because the plot bunny wouldn't stop biting.

Here's my version:

Who Cares About The Bloody Rain, Anyway?

I feel pain. Holy shit. Jesus! Ow. Christ, this hurts.

Marius! I must still go to him!

I struggle as I climb the bloody barricade…fuck, I can hardly stand.

I’m bleeding but I don’t care. I’ve reached him!

Nothing matters as I fall into his arms, the pain too much to bear.

But who cares about pain? My life sucked anyway; death can’t be worse.

Marius is holding me. A dream come true!

Fuck, I’m in agony!

I look up into his eyes one more time.

He really is a handsome boy.

Damn Cosette.

Oh, Marius, I love you.

OW! The pain worsens. I see the blackness coming for me.

I don’t care.

(END)
[info]mhari wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Sure, go ahead.
[info]juliejordan wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
Cheers. :) Who is that meant to be in your icon, by the way? If anyone specific/real?
[info]mhari wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC)
"Nausicaa" by Frederic Leighton. I just like her expression. :)

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